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but you want to know what really offends me?
Crap like this, for obvious reasons:



Save it for Halloween ladies.
Each time I see some bimbo at Oktoberfest events in one of these, I want to punch her in the face.
If you're going to wear a fetish-ized dirndl dress, you must either be:
A. an actual fetish model
B. at said themed fetish event/shoot.
C. [livejournal.com profile] kumimonster ;->

Hey, I'll admit I want a latex dirndl dress. That would be awesome!
But I'm not going to wear it outside photo shoots and fetish club events. And I'm already German, so that helps ;->
My performer pal Shanghai Pearl takes her own Asian heritage and makes light of it all the time, because she can. She plays up the whole Suzie Wong character expertly.
But she's not going to wear her mini tear away cheongsam to grandmother's birthday.

While I know those cheap Leg Avenue "sexy costumes" are marketed toward the male douche-bags out there, they aren't any less insulting to me when worn to the more traditional European cultural events.
It's like inviting a friend to dinner with your family, and they show up in their underwear with the words "Dinner" and "Let's Eat!" scrawled across front of their bra/panties.

Sad thing is, Oktoberfest in the US has become not much more than a drunken frat Burning Man party. Just look at St. Patrick's day. Or better yet "Renaissance" festivals; fairy wings, polyester 'gowns' and dragon mugs everywhere.
Not as culturally specific as Oktoberfest, but the same issue.
That's not to say you shouldn't have fun. Go ahead, get shitfaced.
Polka til you puke.
Just don't shop amazon.com for something to wear.
Stick with the jeans and t-shirt that says "I heart beer."

While I know some that do it, and do it well, I'm personally not going to run around a Japanese art festival in kimono. Mainly because I'm not Japanese.
Some might say "oh who cares, the world is a village and there are no borders in fashion, blah, blah, blah..."
No, but there is that thing called *cultural appropriation* and respect when it comes to other cultures' traditions. That also applies to the clothing associated with said cultures.
Don't throw on a Halloween costume dirndl of any kind because it happens to be Oktoberfest, it makes your tit's look bigger, and you want to be German for a day.
Fuck you. I will shove the damn "costume" and that salted pretzel down your throat...while the douche-bags cheer on.
Hot girl on girl action....beer flying everywhere. Either way, I win.

And if you show up in a "sexy geisha" costume to the Japanese event mentioned earlier, I hope a panda disembowels you on the spot.

Date: 2010-06-23 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillbourne.livejournal.com
Couldnt agree more.

I <3 kimono.... I painstakenly try to get every single detail correct so as not to offend anyone Japanese. I wear appropriate seasonal hair ornaments and patterns, and I always wear the juban (under-kimono) and all the other layers and if possible, get someone trained to dress me and tie my obi.
When I wear it, I am extremely polite and take any constructive criticizm (from the Japanese) to heart and try harder to get it right next time.
I have gotten very good at it and its taken me *years* to learn. It took me a very long time to get it correct enough to even try to go out of the house in it. I respect the culture.

...and it makes me sick to see some hooter-girl in a short robe and whiteface with a fan trying to pull off "geisha"...

in the end though, I am the one who gets nods from the older Japanese women. I am the one who has japanese guys come up and start speaking Japanese like I should understand it. They tell me that I can dress myself better in kimono than most japanese girls today. :)

...and when I dress as Orian/Tayuu for pride, It is such an honor to have so many compliments from the Japanese. I have heard so many stories of their times at festivals in Japan... Its heartwarming.

When will people *get* the fact that costumes are cheap stereotypes and are insulting. TO everyone.

Date: 2010-06-23 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edel-vice.livejournal.com
Exactly.
I actually thought of you when I mentioned that "some do it (wear kimono), and do it well."
;-)

Date: 2010-06-23 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deborahkla.livejournal.com

Yeah, this has always bugged me, too. Save it for Hallowe'en or the Boudouir or Fetish event, as you said.

When our family went to Austria & Germany in the mid-sixties, my parents bought me a beautiful dirndl and my younger brother lederhosen (of course). But when I wore the dirndl to school (aged 8) everybody made fun of it so I never wore it again. :-( Damned 1960s fashions!

Date: 2010-06-23 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edel-vice.livejournal.com
Heh! Yeah, that happened to me in grade school in the 80s.
When the kids made fun of me my teacher, who happened to be Jewish, told the gaggle of 6th graders to (and I quote) "shut the hell up".
I only wore it once more after that though, more or less due to me out growing them so fast rather than peer pressure.

Date: 2010-06-23 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
this is EXACTLY why I do not go to Renn Faires.

I did SCA for 17 years, during a time when if you wore a COSTUME you were taken aside (usually by your earlobe) and explained to. I wasn't meticulous about being period, but you had to really KNOW period to tell.

I am fine with people wearing costumes... as long as they KNOW they are wearing costumes and do not wear them to cultural events because they think they will be "on theme". THese are the same sorts of people that pick up the "goth" costumes at halloween and wear them out to clubs.

Date: 2010-06-23 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edel-vice.livejournal.com
I feel your pain.
I bet you and Anders could go for hours on the subject, lol!
He watched as the Northern California Faires became a costume rehearsal for Burning Man.

Date: 2010-06-23 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
Oh god! Send him my condolences!! I am grateful that it never got THAT bad here. eep!

Date: 2010-06-23 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sokkmonkey.livejournal.com
It was a money issue. During the golden years they made all paid actors go to two weeks of costume and dialect training. Now there is jousting, pirates, barbarians, and plastic castle mugs. It's funny the Faires and SCA flip-flopped. The SCA used to be coolers of mountain dew and nylon tabards, now they are the most legit game running.

Date: 2010-06-23 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staxxy.livejournal.com
The SCA has always been a bit more serious about period up here. We have a few phases of being a little more laid back, but there is always a "general look of the thing" going on as well.

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